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What are the best places to teach ICT skills?

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Submitted by katarzyna.szkuta on Tue, 2012-04-10 17:52

From your expertise/studies and reports, what brings better results - informal or formal environments? Public libraries, classrooms or work environment. Does each target groups has its best environment or is it a question of culture or maybe individual preference?

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Submitted by stylianosm on Fri, 2012-04-20 22:31

Hello Katarzyna and welcome!

As a first comment I would say that both categories of spaces can be effective for different age groups, learning styles & skills. Personal preferences are also relevant see Gardner's multiple intelligences theory.
The key is the creation of an atmosphere and culture of motivation and enthusiasm for effective learning.

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Submitted by eusebiofg on Mon, 2012-04-23 15:22

I assume as "ICT Skills" the skills necessary to use new technology to access to basic services, as users.

To spread these skills I think it is appropriate to define a segmented model for clusters of age, ranging from informal education for young people, training in the workplace for adults, up to training - always informal - for people on retirement (I could detect the same needs in Russia, during a recent European project).

For training courses for young people and targeted at professional ICT skills, you must wait for a comprehensive European plan for training on information technology, which can be declined and implemented locally, based on the production network of each territory.

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Submitted by stylianosm on Fri, 2012-04-27 11:50

ICT, Informal Learning & ICT Skills Planning

Hello Eusebio,

Welcome to DA12 and thanks for the interesting comment. I agree fully that informal learning experiences enabled via social media and web 2.0 services that form personal learning networks/environments and communities of practice are powerful learning mechanisms that we need to utilize next to formal education interventions.

Indeed that is the "orthodox" way of doing it. Is it effective though? Are there evidents?
I wonder whether the speed of technological advances might gradually make similar processes obsolete and call for more rapid responses that embrace e.g. risk taking? The floor is open for ideas and innovative practices...

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Submitted by nabeth.thierry on Thu, 2012-05-24 15:56

A couple of articles about what should Computer education be about. (should it teach people how to code, etc.)

Revitalizing the UK games industry at the source: Education
by Mike Rose, Gamasutra news, March 22, 2012.

Extract: The topic of computer science education in the UK has been a hot one in recent months. Currently UK schools teach ICT lessons, which essentially boil down to children learning how to use Microsoft Word and Powerpoint.
Fortunately, thanks to the work of people like Ian Livingstone, life president of Eidos, the curriculum is soon set for reform, with a new computer science course due to replace ICT in select schools starting from this September.
"For years we've been boring our children to death," said Livingstone at a Thursday seminar on the future of the UK video game industry attended by Gamasutra. "ICT is not computing... we've wasted generations of people who can't code."

And here is another article about the private sector (Google) to support Computer science education.

Google funding UK computer science education revitalization
by Mike Rose, Gamasutra news, March 22, 2012.

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Submitted by nabeth.thierry on Thu, 2012-05-24 15:58

Google funding UK computer science education revitalization
by Mike Rose, Gamasutra news, ***May 24, 2012***.

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Submitted by njeans on Sun, 2012-06-03 13:12

My experience with the Making IT Personal project ( is that the best environment is the trainee’s own home. As non-users of technology (in the UK, at least) become more entrenched in their refusal to engage, it seems unlikely that they will make the effort to go into the IT monster’s own lair! On the other hand, a grandparent is much more likely to listen to the urging of a grandchild to have a go at Skype or look at photos of the family on a laptop. I speak from personal experience but see plenty of nods when I mention this to wider audiences.
A related issue is the importance of using the trainee’s own equipment, so that he/she does not go home to find the methodology learned in a classroom or library does not work at home.

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Submitted by slucienbrun on Fri, 2012-06-08 18:02

I think that the best "place" is not necessarily the issue. The notion of "learning environment" would put more emphasize on the learner perspective rather than focusing on the "teacher" point of view. It does take in account online environment, formal training sessions, unformal and peer to peer learning experiences, etc. ICT skills have some "crossover" aspects which will evolve along ages, occupations, and uses. Hence, for me, what matters is to developp the core skills enabling anyone to take advantage of various life environement to reinforce one's skills, re-usable in other environements.
As an example, I am involved in a professional community,, aiming at developping ICT skills of trainers. The assumption is that ICT skills are now necessary for many trainings, including those which could appear fairly remote from ICTs. By reinforcing the ICT skills of all trainers, the objective is to provide training curricula which include tools, social networks, skills and the capacity to take in account the necessary training of "end users".
The development of "ePortfolio", even in a simple form, can strongly help anyone in bridging the gaps between different skills, including those developped in the private life and reinforce that long life learning envy and recognition !

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Submitted by Darrel Falk on Mon, 2012-06-25 18:27

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